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 Post subject: Easily modifiable navigation w/out frames?
PostPosted: Sat Dec 13, 2008 2:34 am 
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Hi everyone!

I am about to sound like a n00b here but anyways... I have a navigation on my site obviously but the thing is, whenever I add a new page to my site I have to go back and add it to the navigations on each of the other pages. Logically then the more pages I have the more work it will be to add new pages so eventually I'll have a lot of pages and then :shock: omg.

Anyways, the point is, is there a way to make a central file that holds the navigation contents and then I just reference that file on all the pages so that if I want to make a change on the navigation I only have to change it once...? Like the way you do with stylesheets for css except with an HTML navigation. Thanks!

Thank you for your time :D

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Do you know anything about PHP or how to impliment it? If so there is a way with that.

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Thanks, but no I do not know PHP :oops: hehe. Thanks though :)

Is there a way with HTML/CSS? I assume not...

Thanks for your help.

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the only answer I think is frames I'm atempting that at the moment as I'm in the same boat: I can keep updating the whole site.

there is a nifty little program called replacem which cam replace specified text. it will also replace text between to porttions of texts so you can add a html comment to you page before and after each section (in your case the nav menu) so that you can put say start nav and end nav and it will replace whats between these two "tags" with the new text you specify

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In that case im with simon on this one. I don't know any other way. HTML and CSS are basicly static, they can only display what is in there files, with the use of php you can read from other files and get that to display. So you can:

A. Use Iframes
B. Use replacem
C. Use DreamWeaver and setup a template, then change the template which will update the other pages (in theory)

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I think a lot og the issues of frames is that people misuse them or don't write them out rpoporely causing issues wich just get people against frames and so they either get disabled or are no longer supported. I'm rewriting www.rushdenrotaract.org in a frameset and boy its so much easier as ones I've defined the frames and set up what the static content will be I just have to put the essential content into the main frame so much easier and faster. as for the user he/she will probably never realize that its a web site based on frames as its all seamless.

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just the word "frames" makes me cringe, lol

in php you could do something like:
include('links.php');
added to all the pages, then just have to modify the links.php every time you add a new link.

or do it with .shtml seeing as you don't get along with PHP so well.
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well for the minute frames seems to be working just fine but i expect I will advance slowly over time

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FnCool wrote:
just the word "frames" makes me cringe, lol

in php you could do something like:
include('links.php');
added to all the pages, then just have to modify the links.php every time you add a new link.

or do it with .shtml seeing as you don't get along with PHP so well.
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Thanks everyone! But, how do I do it with .shtml anyways? :oops: I'm such a n00b lol And yeah, I don't know PHP, but the more I read about it the more I think it might be worth learning sometime.

Oh, I just had an idea (edit) Would this work if I made a div where the navigation is but then made the background an image, and made each part of the image link to a different page in my site... is that even possible, and if it is, would it help anything? Would I still have to change every single page? Thanks!

EDIT:
I figured out how to do it with shtml and it works, at least so far... FnCool, 8) I owe you one... Thank you so much :D

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glad to hear it!
to tell the truth, the first time i had to deal with something like that, i started learning php, and to this day, i've never once used shtml, lol


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lol I was seriously about to learn php, but then the shtml way was much easier lol so I just went with that.

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Is the site meant to have a stylesheet?


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It also has a stylesheet, yeah...
But the navigation problem was becoming a pain in the you know where so I fixed it as well. And as you probably know you can't use a stylesheet for that so I learned a new method thanks to FnCool 8).

Does anyone know if there's a way to include all the files in a certain directory with one line of code?
If all the other files are text documents that is.
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sorry, can't be done.
you'd have to use php or javascript.
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Oh well... :cry: Thanks anyways.

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